From the Mailroom to The Matrix: 50 Years Inside Hollywood's Machine
Part 1 of my conversation with Steve Papazian
Happy Tuesday, Dear Listener!
For those of you new here, hello! We have officially moved over from Beehive to Substack, and with that transition, many of you are joining us for the first time. Welcome to this little corner of the internet where I share my musings and pontificate on how we can sustain and thrive in the entertainment industry.
I am an Emmy-nominated film producer, and six years ago, I decided to create the Angle on Producers podcast to spotlight producers from all corners of the entertainment industry. I got tired of trying to explain to folks outside of Hollywood—AND inside it—what exactly I do…and why I'm not the director of the thing.
Many conversations were had off mic with colleagues, usually over copious amounts of wine, commiserating about how extremely challenging it is to survive and thrive in this career path. I couldn't understand why people weren't talking about this openly. In 2015, I became somewhat visible thanks to the success and Emmy nomination of my first producing project, the feature documentary Autism in Love.
I wanted to pick people's brains over coffee and they wanted to pick mine. All that picking would eventually leave us over-caffeinated and brain dead, so I embarked on the journey to capture these time capsule conversations to help anyone navigating their path in the trenches of Hollywood.
Back in April 2019, I was fortunate enough to record with Steve Papazian—a Hollywood executive whose career spans nearly five decades and reads like a masterclass in entertainment industry evolution.
The former President of Worldwide Physical Production for Warner Brothers, who began in the mailroom and retired after 49.5 years, is a needle in a haystack. In a time when 40% of young people—especially college grads—face an extremely punishing job market, building a 47-year career at a single company feels like a fantasy.
His filmography includes some of cinema's most defining moments: The Matrix, The Hobbit trilogy, and the Harry Potter films. He's been the trusted production partner for visionaries like Clint Eastwood and Christopher Nolan across multiple projects, helping bring their creative visions to life on an unprecedented scale.
During this chat, Steve takes us inside the corporate transformations that shaped modern Hollywood—the Warner Brothers-Lorimar merger and his strategic move to Universal—revealing the sophisticated decision-making that goes into shepherding these cultural touchstones from concept to screen.
Beyond the business acumen, Steve has deep reverence for the craft itself. He speaks with genuine passion about Hollywood's golden era and offers profound insights into what it means to maintain creative integrity in an industry often driven by competing interests and immense financial pressures.
Given the tectonic shifts of the last six years, I sat with him again last week to hear his perspective on the current state of things. That episode drops on Thursday!
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You won’t want to miss it his ideas on how to save Hollywood.
But first, let me take you back to the spring of 2019 for this essential conversation about what it truly means to be an exceptional producer in Hollywood—and how one builds a legacy that spans generations of filmmaking.
3 Takeaways:
1. Passion Drives Success: Steve attributes his 49.5-year career and ability to remain positive to his unwavering passion for the creative process of filmmaking, emphasizing the joy of seeing audiences connect with the final product.
2.Adaptability in a Changing Industry: His career illustrates the importance of adapting to technological shifts (e.g., from analog to digital) and corporate changes (e.g., studio mergers and acquisitions) while maintaining a focus on both the creative and business aspects of production.
3. Integrity and Relationships Matter: Steve’s decision to retire before becoming cynical and his emphasis on collaborative relationships with filmmakers like Nolan and Eastwood highlight the value of maintaining authenticity and strong professional connections in a high-pressure industry
Keep creating, keep hustling. And as always, thanks for doing this life thing with me!
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